Apesar disto comemorem, a copa é aqui! Que vergonha...

Depredação de patrimônio publico.
Um ônibus queimado.
Um torcedor assassinado a facadas e pauladas.
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Pelas cores de um time de futebol?
Não, foi por menos que isto.
Foi por muito menos que a tal “paixão” que aglutina todos os tipos de pessoas em torno de uma bandeira, uma camisa ou uma história.
Também tenho minha preferência no esporte bretão, como não? Todos têm, em maior ou menor grau, mas tem.
Porém às vezes prefiro esquecer disto. E esta - creia - é uma destas ocasiões.
Mesmo não tendo nada a ver com nenhuma das duas facções, me envergonho.
E então? Por quê fizeram aquelas coisas que citei no primeiro parágrafo?
Respondo:
Burrice; idiotice; estupidez; ignorância; acefalismo; mau caratismo; banditismo; fillhadaputice etc, etc, etc...
E infelizmente estes adjetivos são cada vez mais usados quando o assunto é futebol e seus fãs mais ferrenhos.
E é assim que vamos promover uma copa do mundo em 2014?


Muito mais educados e interessantes são os comentários tecidos por nós da Radio Onboard.

Nesta edição falamos um pouco sobre a guerra política que assola a F1 no momento e de nossas expectativas quanto ao GP da Turquia, o único Tilke que deu certo!

Desta vez estivemos à mesa apenas Felipe Maciel, o Homem Borracha; eu, o Homem Tocha, mas, infelizmente Fábio Campos, a Mulher Invisível não pode participar. O Coisa é o Max Mosley.
Esperamos a volta de nosso estimado colaborador já na edição Pré Race da Turquia, que vai ao ar neste domingo as oito da manhã, acompanhe a gente neste link: RoB ao Vivo!

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Por mais trágico e deplorável que as ocorrências de ontem no Pacaembu sejam, não é por elas que eu sou contra a copa de 2014 no Brasil.

É porque o Brasil é uma máquina pública de fabricação de desigualdade social e corrupção. Se o povo daqui merece ou não a Copa, também tenho minha opinião formada, mas prefiro reservá-la a mim.
Fico com a opinião do Daniel Medici....coisa pavorosa esta de brigas com hora marcada....
SAVIOMACHADO disse…
Groo... Infelizmente não há o que fazer. Vai levar muitos anos pra que possamos melhorar. Ridículo a atitude desses torcedores.
Abraço.
SAVIOMACHADO
Unknown disse…
Groo

Post interessante de discutir, diria que o povo daqui é uma versão piorada dos Hooligans (famosos trocedores ingleses), é algo lamentável de se ver (se bem que boa parte das emissoras preferem explorar esses atos ao invés de falar algo mais produtivo). Nosso país será sede da Copa de 2014, mas com essa bagunça que está (boa parte dos estádios com problemas)...somada as brigas de torcida (por pouca coisa)...acabam por pesar contra o nosso país....Outros esportes não se vê brigas assim entre torcedores...eu particularmente nunca vi uma briga de torcedores da Ferarri (torcida parecida com a do Corinthians, pela paixão) com a da Mclaren, por exemplo...
Ron Groo disse…
Daniel e Francisco, concordo com o lance da máquina de corrupção, políticos safados e tal.
Mas só pra lembrar, estes acontecimentos de ontem - e os outros milhões deles todos os fins de semana e cada vem em uma cidade diferente - não foram obra deles. Mas de gente do povo, dos que frequentam estádios e povavelmenete freqentarão ainda em 2014.
Pode-se argumentar milhares de coisas, falta de uma educação adequada para que não se fizesse mais isto...
Porém não dá.
Isto, esta violência está arraigada nas torcidas, como se fosse dos seus instintos.
Como nas pragas. E o que se faz com pragas?
Infelizmente ainda não temos veneno suficiente.
Felipão disse…
Nossa...

eu não to sabendo o que aconteceu...

fiquei o dia todo fora ontem e hoje...
Brun@ disse…
Uma vez um professor me contou ano passado (meu último ano do Ensino Médio) que uma das faculdades daqui - a UERJ - não tem aulas em dia de jogo (o dia em questão era quarta-feira).

Nosso cartão de boas-vindas já foi dado. Se os Hooligans não se assustarem, também serão bem-vindos em 2014.
Anônimo disse…
Pois é, meu caro, quando vi a notícia na TV exclamei exatamente a mesma frase: "e ainda querem fazer Copa do Mundo aqui..."

Pô, vai ser um barato assistir um mundial aqui, saber que basta pegar um metrô pra ver uma semifinal de Copa do Mundo é um barato, é o mesmo que sinto quando a F-1 vem a Interlagos.

Mas temo que esta Copa seja um vexame histórico, ao vivo e em cores, para todo o planeta assistir.
Disfarçadamente a gente comenta o assunto, mas no intimo temos que considerar muita coisa, escolaridade, educação em casa, drogas e uma porrada de coisas que a gente não viu nos anos 60/70, vc vai pensar: esse velho tá de brincadeira...eu direi o aumento populacional devido as migrações não foi acompanhado com devida atenção pelos governos, principalmente os daqui de São Paulo, temos má qualidade em tudo, ensino, saude, transporte, emprego, má qualificação profissional, sub-empregos e sei lá mais quantas coisas. Não sou um expert no assunto, talvez leve um monte de borrachadas aqui mas, viví os anos 60/70 eu ía de trem de Sto.André a Sampa, depois a pé pela Av.Pacaembu assistir jogos do meu time com torcidas misturadas, havia bate-bocas, alguns sopapos e terminava com a turma do "deixa-disso", não vou a um estádio de futebol desde o ano de 1992, quando um Policial Militar "vasculhou" eu, minha esposa e meus filhos a procura de drogas...em um jogo noturno no Morumbi com 3.000 pessoas presentes...CHEGA MEU AMIGO, quando falam de Copa 2014 e me perguntam o que penso, digo: ASSALTO A VISTA.
MSTeam Crew disse…
Esse comportamento absurdo já está enraizado no caráter desse grupo de bandidos que se dizem torcedores, que usam a desculpa do "amor" a determinado time de futebol para cometer crimes, como agressões físicas, destruição do patrimônio público e privado, roubos, furtos e homicídios.

Pior do que isso é ver no Orkut, em diversas comunidades (destacadamente a de torcidas organizadas do time que torço)nas quais os baderneiros são exaltados como GUERREIROS (isso mesmo).

Guerreiro de verdade é, infelizmente, aquele torcedor que consegue ir a um estádio e voltar são e salvo para casa. Enquanto os clubes forem permissivos e financiarem a baderna das organizadas isso jamais vai acabar.
Anselmo Coyote disse…
Groo, assino embaixo.
O que se viu em Interlagos 2008 também foi um cartão de visita pavoroso do que podem fazer também os babacas que se acham torcedores de F1 (só os babacas, claro).
Abs.
Marcos Antonio disse…
grandes babacas.Só dá pra dizer isso, mas eles existem pq a conivência dos prórpios clubes e justiça. Porque não cadastram todos os integrantes de torcidas organizadas? E esse negócio da copa de 2014 é o memso do Pan. Vão ser criados elefantes brancos, assim como fizeram no pan com o maria lenk como foco de dengue e arena multi uso e o velódromo apodrecendo.e ainda querem além da copa, uma olimpíada aqui...
Bruno Aleixo disse…
Belo post Groo... Acredito que o 1º passo para solucionar este problema seja a extinção completa e definitva das torcidas organizadas, este bando de marginais, que vão aos jogos de graça apenas para causar tulmulto, assaltar e perturbar a vida de quem quer torcer em paz.
Felipe Maciel disse…
Apoio o Aleixo, ninguém precisa de torcida organizada. Se quer ir ao estádio, vai com a família, os amigos... não em comboio.

Só quero ver se na Copa o Brasil vai conseguir mostrar-se mais civilizado.

E o Fábio de Mulher Invisível? uhauhahuhahahuhau
Acho que depois dessa ele volta a comparecer nas edições.
Anônimo disse…
o Aleixo tem razao, esses bandos de selvagens vão aos estádio de graça (os times destinam mto da carga de ingressos para "estes") pra fazer isso. E o pior eh q os dirigentes tem medo deles....
bom qto a Copa, quem aki acha que não darão um jeito de camuflar estes problemas? cobrarão ingressos caríssimos e assim "resolverão" o problema... Flw
MSTeam Crew disse…
Eu fico também é pensando: será se o torcedor comum sabe que o ingresso "standard" para a Copa do Mundo vai custar algumas centenas de reais?

Ah, respondendo sua pergunta:

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Gil disse…
Amigo, só discordo de vc num ponto: esse pessoal não é torcedor ou fã ferrenho de futebol ou de qualquer clube, são narcisitas amantes de pancadora. E ponto.
Anselmo Coyote disse…
Groo,

Duvide de quem não tem amigos. Duvide de quem anda em bandos.
Duvide de extremistas contumazes.

Abs.

Paz a nós todos.
Anônimo disse…
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